new to you friday–men, man up
A few weeks ago, a guy I’m friends with said two things that made me smile.
The first—“I thought about dating you, but decided it wouldn’t work because I’ve been reading your blog and you’re too Christian”—because that deserves a trophy for Back-handed Compliment Of The Year.
And the second—“You need a strong guy, and there aren’t many strong Christian guys”—because it made me think of this post.
Let’s make up a statistic and see if we can get it to go viral. How about, “If you are a single Christian woman over 30, you are 64% more likely to get hit by a bus than to get married.”
Look both ways, ladies.
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At dinner with some friends this weekend, one of them described the guy she’d just started dating. He was raised in a Christian home but no longer attends church or “practices” any faith. My friend likes him and plans to see him again but she’s also approaching it casually; she realizes his lack of faith is a major issue.
Whether or not she should date a non-Christian at all is a whole other discussion. In his book How to Get a Date Worth Keeping, Henry Cloud asserts that dating unbelievers is fine if you approach it as a way to make new friends, have fun, and grow as a person. As someone who dated and subsequently did the love and loss routine with an atheist, I would argue the opposite point of view.
But wherever you land on that, the point is she’s dating this guy (let’s call him Jack) because even though she knows dozens of Christian men her age at our church, not one has ever asked her out. And before you ask—yes, she is smart, attractive, outgoing, and generally “together.” So are my other single friends, many of whom struggle with the same situation. Why the dating drought when it comes to Christian men?
I obviously can’t speak for the men, but based on the statistics I’ve read it doesn’t seem they lack interest in marriage and family. The majority of single men—believers and otherwise—say they hope to marry and raise children.
Yet many Christian guys don’t date—they lead Bible studies and singles events, they pray for a wife, they attend group activities for years on end, but they rarely exert a little energy or spend a little money to know any woman individually.
Nothing’s wrong with groups, but Jack didn’t wait for verification from five buddies as to whether my friend might be interested in him. He initiated conversation with her, expressed his interest, and took a risk.
God created men to be initiators, so this kind of assertiveness gets our attention. My friends and I are strong women, but we refuse to usurp that role and act as the pursuer. If our Christian brothers won’t, either, what’s the new strategy? My friend summed it up well as we finished our coffee. “I don’t know what will happen with Jack, but it’s frustrating to have few alternatives. I guess we’re just supposed to be ‘waiting on the Lord.’ Okay. We’re waiting……”
I’m really not trying to be down on men here. I know it’s hard to take those kinds of risks, and I know women can be confusing and contradictory. But I do believe that, despite the difficulties, God created men to step up and take action in every area of their lives—which includes “finding a wife” (Proverbs 18:22).
Guys, we don’t expect you to quote poetry or be able to benchpress your car. We just wish you’d spend a little less time reading Wild at Heart and a little more time living it.

I will take a shot at explaining this, at least to the extent that it has involved Christian guys I know. Sometimes (what percentage of sometimes, I don’t know), it has to do with the proximity issue. (Please note that this is coming from a married 50-something who didn’t get married until he was 31.) If I’m a young single Christian guy, and there is a lovely young single Christian girl who attends where I attend, and I ask her out, and we get on together well, and we being to develop a dating relationship, and then for some reason it doesn’t work out, and we stop dating – - – well, it falls back to the classic “It’s so awkward to be around him/her, and I don’t want to have to change churches just because a dating relationship didn’t work out.”
It would take some work to count up how many single men and women I’ve seen leaving a congregation because they didn’t want to be confronted each week by the proximity of a former boyfriend/girlfriend. So a goodly number of both genders that I have known have just avoided dating within their congregation. And since congregations don’t mix all that much, it works out the way it has.
It worked just fine for my wife and me, because mutual friends brought us together when we were in separate places, and we had the opportunity to let the relationship either develop or not, apart from weekly encounters at church.
Just one view from experience. Right or wrong, I dunno, but there it is.
I got married at 33 and will celebrate 14 years of marriage this year. The older we get the more set in our ways we become and the more we handle life as a single person. I think alot of us are just insecure—we see a confident woman and think were not quite up to her level, when she is most likely as insecure as we are or at best we are as confident as she is, but don’t realize it.
As for those who breakup in a group and feeling out of place when the see the other—Don’t do anything on a date that you will regret later. Constantly remind each other to work for the best interest of the other.
My other advice is not to push. I have seen guys leave the room when a pushy woman walks in.
I would also not be apposed to the old Jr. High method. Have a trusted “Guy” friend approach an guy you are inteested in and have him scope out the situation. He might just be waiting to see if you have interest in him.
Just my thoughts
All good things to remember, especially your next-to-last point. Pushy, brash women drive me crazy–I can only imagine how they affect guys.
Sammyboy – I appreciate your sentiment. But that’s a load of crap…(i say that with love. sort of). ANY dating situation brings up the same concern.
I’m dating someone from my high school/college – oh wait i might see him/her when we break up and I can’t change school’s so I guess i won’t date.
I’m dating someone from my work – oh wait i might see him/her when we break up and I can’t change career’s so I guess i won’t date.
I’m dating someone from my “friend group” I hang out with – oh wait i might see him/her when we break up and I can’t change friend’s so I guess i won’t date.
All those above sound pretty silly right? Right. It’s simply an excuse to throw in the congregation thing.
Of course all that said – it is only my opinion. Jen can berate me later for getting all feisty on her blog.
Actually, Bree, I’d like to respond on Sammyboy’s behalf – he was describing observed behavior. I will tell you that I know Sammyboy, and his insights into behavior are usually spot-on.
This phenomenon may be more pronounced in non-mega-congregations, where encounters cannot be avoided.
Hello, Al. Which Al that I know are you?
Bree – - no, NONE of those sound silly. I know first-hand that each of those happens. At the small colleges I attended (and I mean SMALL – - like in less than 150 students), in the small companies I’ve worked for, in the friend groups I’ve been part of, far more than the ex-daters are affected by a break-up. For some, it doesn’t stop them. For others, it’s more than they can handle.
In an ideal world, it would all be just fine. Everyone would act like mature adults all the time, no one’s feelings would ever be hurt, no social situation would ever become awkward. Until that world happens, we will continue to see BOTH boys/men AND girls/women shy away from pursuing dating relationships because of proximity issues. I’m not advocating for it, but whether we want it to be or not, that’s just the cold, hard fact.
Try purposeful dating and then finding yourself labeled a “playa”. Yes, that happened to me. I decided to date around to find a spouse (which I DID), and I was labeled a “playa” by a woman. She is still single. She was engaged and then the groom-to-be broke it off shortly before the wedding. Huh. I wonder why.
Well, there could be lots of reasons why, and it might have been the best thing for both. The bigger issue for both genders, I think, is being honest about things. There’s nothing wrong (and lots right) about dating lots of people, BUT both people need to know that’s what’s happening. If she thought you were her boyfriend (either because you let her believe that or she assumed incorrectly) then it would be normal for her to feel hurt upon discovering that you’re “dating around.”
Thanks for your reply. Just for clarity, the woman I was referring to was someone I was not involved with AT ALL; just someone who was in my group of friends. You are right in that it may have been a good for both of them to not get married. And thanks also for not going down the “blame-men-first” route!
My post above was alluding to the “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” dilemma.
This issue has been hammered to death on many other blogs. What I have learned being a single who married in their early 40s and knows/knew many christian men who are/were still single, it IS true that many/most don’t date. Some are doing the “waiting” themselves – waiting for a word from the Lord for example (I did this). Other’s want to spend time fixing themselves (I did this too, and I believe it DID help!). Still others susscribe to the school of thought that dating should be “kissed goodbye.”
I don’t see any difference between asserting that “God created men to be initiators” and “God created women to be cooks, housekeepers and baby making machines.” Why do women have options where men have only obligations?
If a woman saves herself sexually for marriage I see no reason why a man shouldn’t save his money for marriage – as opposed to spending it on short-term dating relationships.