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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://writeaboutnowjt.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/all-wet/#comment-1712</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 20:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Erin,
That&#039;s a question believers and denominations have wrestled with for centuries. So I&#039;ll put my opinion out there as my opinion--just that. There are lots of things you can read that explore this in more depth, written by people with &quot;Ph.D&quot; after their names. :)

In the Bible we don&#039;t see babies being sprinkled or christened, so while I think that can be a meaningful, symbolic gesture for parents I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s a substitute for adult baptism. We also don&#039;t see a lot of the &quot;pray for Jesus to enter your heart&quot; stuff. Instead, the New Testament consistently points to examples of adults a)understanding the Gospel; b) repenting of their sinfulness and c) being baptized. Because that is so often given as the model for the early church, it&#039;s why Christian churches (which try to follow the New Testament model) baptize people by dunking them, and baptize only people who are old enough to make the decision for themselves.

Now, having said that, there are also examples where a whole family is baptized, (the jailer&#039;s family in Acts) and we aren&#039;t told how old those kids were or if it was truly voluntary. And of course there&#039;s the thief on the cross who Jesus promises &quot;paradise&quot; after death. Neither of those examples, to name just two, fit the model.

So my take is that we serve a big, big, big God, who knows our inner hearts and minds and can save anyone he wants to regardless of whether they&#039;ve been dipped under the water by another believer. However, I also think the biblical record was given to us for a reason and the consistent examples mentioned there were intentional. So can someone still be saved if he hasn&#039;t been baptized? My opinion is yes. But my follow up question would be if he has read the Bible and seen these examples, why NOT do it? 

I hope that&#039;s helpful. I welcome your thoughts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin,<br />
That&#8217;s a question believers and denominations have wrestled with for centuries. So I&#8217;ll put my opinion out there as my opinion&#8211;just that. There are lots of things you can read that explore this in more depth, written by people with &#8220;Ph.D&#8221; after their names. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In the Bible we don&#8217;t see babies being sprinkled or christened, so while I think that can be a meaningful, symbolic gesture for parents I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s a substitute for adult baptism. We also don&#8217;t see a lot of the &#8220;pray for Jesus to enter your heart&#8221; stuff. Instead, the New Testament consistently points to examples of adults a)understanding the Gospel; b) repenting of their sinfulness and c) being baptized. Because that is so often given as the model for the early church, it&#8217;s why Christian churches (which try to follow the New Testament model) baptize people by dunking them, and baptize only people who are old enough to make the decision for themselves.</p>
<p>Now, having said that, there are also examples where a whole family is baptized, (the jailer&#8217;s family in Acts) and we aren&#8217;t told how old those kids were or if it was truly voluntary. And of course there&#8217;s the thief on the cross who Jesus promises &#8220;paradise&#8221; after death. Neither of those examples, to name just two, fit the model.</p>
<p>So my take is that we serve a big, big, big God, who knows our inner hearts and minds and can save anyone he wants to regardless of whether they&#8217;ve been dipped under the water by another believer. However, I also think the biblical record was given to us for a reason and the consistent examples mentioned there were intentional. So can someone still be saved if he hasn&#8217;t been baptized? My opinion is yes. But my follow up question would be if he has read the Bible and seen these examples, why NOT do it? </p>
<p>I hope that&#8217;s helpful. I welcome your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://writeaboutnowjt.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/all-wet/#comment-1710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 18:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jen, 
   I am curious and don&#039;t want to make an assumption so I&#039;ll ask, do you believe baptism to be a requirement for salvation? Thanks for your time!

Erin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen,<br />
   I am curious and don&#8217;t want to make an assumption so I&#8217;ll ask, do you believe baptism to be a requirement for salvation? Thanks for your time!</p>
<p>Erin</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://writeaboutnowjt.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/all-wet/#comment-643</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I linked to Brian Jones&#039; article (as well as Robert Fife&#039;s) on my blog last week.  I liked the courage he demonstrated in teaching what he believed even though the entire class left his newly planted church when they learned about his teaching.  It takes some guts to say something that will drive potential new members away, especially when you are just starting.  He is certainly not a people-pleaser, but someone who is serious about trying to follow Christ.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I linked to Brian Jones&#8217; article (as well as Robert Fife&#8217;s) on my blog last week.  I liked the courage he demonstrated in teaching what he believed even though the entire class left his newly planted church when they learned about his teaching.  It takes some guts to say something that will drive potential new members away, especially when you are just starting.  He is certainly not a people-pleaser, but someone who is serious about trying to follow Christ.</p>
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